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“Excuse me for caring!” – Mythbusting the Contentious 663rd Page of the Discovery Documents

Somewhere, somehow, someone has put out the myth that a mysterious person called Primrose school on the morning of the murders, and told the school “not to worry” about the disappearance. This mysterious figure could not have known the status of the children, unless she was an accessory. When a staff member challenged the caller, she remarked with indignation: “Excuse me for caring!”

Who is this mysterious caller? Is this the clue that will blow this case wide open? Did Chris Watts have a woman secretly helping him commit or cover up the murders?

All of these questions are breathtaking – breathtakingly silly.

On page 663 of the Discovery Documents it’s clear who made the call, and when.What’s more, and this takes just a few minutes to read to comprehend the context, it shouldn’t be that hard to figure out that there’s no conspiracy.

  1. The caller is Shan’ann’s mother, Sandi Rzucek.
  2. She called Primrose at 11:00-11:30.
  3. Contextually it’s obvious she called the school after Chris Watts did [he called at 08:26].

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When we follow the continuity of the timeline in the Discovery Documents, it makes perfect sense that Shan’ann’s mother called Primrose when she did.  After Sandi [that’s how she spells her name of Facebook] spoke to Watts briefly three times between 10:28 and 10:44, Sandi called the school to begin her own investigation.

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When Sandi called, she found out the girls weren’t in school, and clearly, the school informed her that the girls weren’t coming back either. This prompted Sandi to intervene, telling them:

“Everything is fine.”

What she meant, and what she assumed, was that the children weren’t dead, and would be coming back to school. In other words, she was asking Primrose to discard Watts’ instruction to them to unenroll the children. Furthermore, given the brouhaha between the various in-laws over recent weeks, Sandi asked the school not to tell anyone she’d called [and interfered].

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At around 15:00 Sandi called the school again, following up, trying to find out if the girls were ever dropped off, or if anyone had seen Shan’ann. Clearly the staff wondered what this was all about, and this prompted Sandi to exclaim with justifiable indignation, “Excuse me for caring!”

The sections highlighted in blue and green above, reflect how poorly this aspect of the narrative is expressed. It appears as if certain aspects are repeated, when in reality, the writing is clumsily executed.

In sum, there is no conspiracy. Sandi calling Primrose when she did is exactly what you’d expect in the middle of the morning, when she realized Shan’ann was missing, and her son-in-law wasn’t being of much help to solve the problem. It’s also likely when Shan’ann missed her doctor’s appointment at 10:00, the ball started rolling in Nickole Atkinson’s mind, and she may have called Sandi to find out if she’d heard from Shan’ann. When she hadn’t, Sandi took over the baton and started to make calls. One of them was to the Primrose school. Make sense?



  1. Love/hate true crime in equal measure

    Another thing I keep hearing, which I’m not sure is a myth or not, is that NK told Chris to sell his wifes wedding ring. Is anyone able to kindly clarify if this is true? Not trying to be lazy, I simply cannot find how this point came about…

    • nickvdl

      Chris Watts said Shan’ann had gone, and left the ring behind, and asked Kessinger if he should pawn it. She said why not.

      • Love/hate true crime in equal measure

        Wow, that’s cold on both their parts. Thank you for the clarification.

  2. EllTee

    Thanks for this post. I have thought all along that it was pretty obvious Sandi was the one who called the school, not some mystery woman involved as an accessory either before or after the fact. You spelled out the reasons very succinctly.

  3. sheis

    Just want to mention that Sandi has a very distinct deep smoker’s voice. If another woman had called, it would be pretty apparent it wasn’t Sandi.

  4. Eleni

    At the start of the 3rd paragraph under “Action Stated” it states that Shanann’s mother called the school between 8-8:30a. Why does it state that?

    • nickvdl

      If you refer to the 2nd paragraph mentions Watts calling the school between 08:00 and 08:15. The 3rd paragraph seems to repeat the same info, but gets the name of the caller wrong. The 3-4 paragraphs all provide testimonies of the same thing, but it’s only the director who claims [mistakenly I believe] that Sandi called first thing.

  5. Pam Foldesi

    We have to remember that Sandi is in the North Carolina time zone, and is
    two hours ahead of the Colorado time zone.
    8:15 AM in Colorado is 10:15 AM in North Carolina.
    Sandi speaks of her timing of her call in her time zone.
    Primrose speaks of their timing of receipt of the call in their time zone.

    The statement, “At around 15:00 Sandi called the school again” which is 3PM, would be stated in Colorado time, wouldn’t it?
    If so, Sandi called in her time zone at 5PM.
    Who can clarify all of this? Does it matter?

  6. Bea Mossy

    This article is wrong. There were 4 calls to Primrise on 8/13. Chris called @ 8:15. The next two callers said they were Shanann’s mom but Sandi did not know at that time that they were missing so those callers WERE NOT Sandi. Sandi found out something was wrong from Nikole Atkinson at about 1230 that day when cop first arrived at Watts residence. Sandi did make the last call and told Primrose employee that they were missing. Crime Rocket is so unreliable.

    • Elsa

      Another error here is that watts did not say he was going to pawn the ring. it was Kessinger who suggested watts pawn the ring What’s with these critical errors?

      • nickvdl

        watts did not say he was going to pawn the ring. >>>

        NICHOL recalled another conversation on August 13, 2018 (Monday). CHRIS told NICHOL, SHANANN had left her wedding ring at the house. CHRIS asked NICHOL how much she thought the ring was worth. She responded by telling him to pawn it. He said he was going to get the ring appraised. – Discovery Documents, page 757

  7. lynnenallo

    You guys are missing the call allegedly made by Sandy between 8-8:30 am – discovery doc page 663-their page not the pdf doc.

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